John W. Peterson: “Rural America does not go very far without it. We do not accomplish very much agriculture without it.”

I think there is more to it than that, though. It is local leadership that is part of it, because local leaders had to recognize the program could assist them, and they reached out and adopted it. Many states still haven't.

Well, we're so far behind the curve right now, we were talking to Minerals and Mines Management today. Many of our rigs went to Russia to drill because there's so much more activity there. The big owners go where the action is, and they're…

We keep hearing from over there that it was all ethanol. Ethanol was just a piece. It was 15 percent. The rest was normal oil and gas energy. But they had a plan. I think we ought to have a plan for North America. Stop and think about…

But if you want to make sure that the project costs three or four times what it should, then put the Corps of Engineers in charge, and you will accomplish it.