And if carbon capture and CO<INF>2</INF>, if you have those who believe that's such an evil force, that the CO<INF>2</INF> we breathe out is a poisonous gas, if we put carbon capture and CO<INF>2</INF> payments ahead of affordable available energy, America will be a Section 8 Nation. We won't compete with anybody in the industrialized world because our energy costs will prohibit it.
Discussing the implications of carbon capture policies on America's energy competitiveness.
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