Cliff Bentz: “The people that actually try to live out on that land...no.”

What you would do is you’d go back to those existing roads that have been abandoned and you would cut the trees out of them and presto, you have your road back.

And then you stack the California subsidy on top of that and perhaps the Oregon subsidy on top of that.

Mr. Chairman, this is an excellent bill, and we need it in Oregon. We have 30 million acres of trees. We absolutely need what this bill would provide.

The way this works, you harvest this data from millions of people.