Cliff Bentz actually said...

I haven't heard, wait, wait, wait. You are drifting. You are avoiding my question.

the flexibility in the ESA should be celebrated, not undermined with legislation.

So, I just have to wonder why my friends across the aisle are proposing legislation that makes it easier for bad actors to do these things, ...

I think a lot of the folks up here have been asking you what you do differently when you cross over that bright line.