Tom Coburn actually said...

We ought to be setting a good example on our own cyber within the government.

Had we started out CFATS with the framework that said we are going to bring all the industry together and say how do we best solve this prob...

Well, that is the real answer, because as soon as--here is the problem.

the only way you are going to get it implemented is have some teeth in it, and the only organization that has teeth right now is OMB.