03/01/2010
https://www.congress.gov...
"First of all, why is 90 percent considered effective control of the border?"
"We do not have a secure border today, and we know that by the apprehensions."
"But, remember, the emotion on immigration has nothing to do with race. It has to do with the rule of law."
"If we are going to get immigration reform through, if you are going to get it through the House, we are going to have to do a whole lot more on what is the definition of a controlled border than what ..."