Tom Coburn actually said...

"We do not trust them to do what is best for the country as a whole, and we think they are always self-centered."

"We ought to be setting a good example on our own cyber within the government."

"Had we started out CFATS with the framework that said we are going to bring all the industry together and say how do we best solve this problem--that is not what we did with CFATS."

"Well, that is the real answer, because as soon as--here is the problem."