07/23/2019
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"I don't believe that Members of Congress are naive enough to believe in MMT as a way of servicing our debt."
"If it is not $93 trillion or $83 trillion, what is the number that we are talking about?"
"So only $100 billion a year? Is that what you are saying? Is that roughly--wow. Trillion? Trillion dollars a year."
"I am thankful today in the House Budget Committee that we are actually talking about taxpayer debt for the first time."