Kevin Hern actually said...

Sure. Well, I think that would help us understand, as the Chairman said, because as we are looking at failure rates that are beyond--or earl...

It is so refreshing to hear you all. I wish every committee had folks like you testifying on the realities of what comes out of Congress.

It just seems that if you have got businesses that are failing and you are responsible, you are going to come back and ask the American taxp...

So what we have got is a subsidy calculation that is shrouded in mystery.