03/29/2023
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"Gentlemen, thank you for being here. I appreciate the conversation on this. These are obviously extremely complicated issues."
"OK. Any other ideas on that specifically?"
"I think we need--or if there is going to be demonstration, for instance, the demonstration project authority we have now is awkward, bulky, and it was set up in 1978."
"I want this panel to know that we are very interested in hearing the specific ideas because we want to help in this process."