07/28/2014
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"The debate is the number went up 50 percent in three years. The model was that far off."
"My fear of that is that you have these science-based models that are out here from a group of scientists that agree on this one principle."
"Right. And that is the concern. You start dealing with power generation, transportation, manufacturing, it gets up in a hurry..."
"I could not agree more. Part of this is the certainty issue."