James Lankford actually said...

This Subcommittee will also hold a hearing examining the burden of Federal statutes and regulations placed on State and local governments.

If it is a fine that goes to the General Treasury or that you donate to a third-party organization, we want to know who picks that and where...

As far as, do you feel an obligation coming at you either legislatively or from a guidance that if there is a violation, that is a fine?

there has been a culture change from one of compliance assistance to one of scaring people into compliance