James Lankford actually said...

"And I would comment only in the legal aspects of it. It has not been done before. It will be challenged because it has not been done before."

"Today we are going to look at several issues surrounding administrative law judges (ALJs), their independence, and the importance of due process as provided by the Administrative Procedures Act (APA)."

"Right. And so you are thinking there are 2,500 or so that are going through the process."

"I do share Senator Heitkamp's concern on this that the more that we go outside the structure and the system, the more exposed that we are and the more exposed the taxpayer is to some sort of litigatio..."