James Lankford actually said...

Right, but I am trying to get back to this 20-year amount that you say is what is typical.

But if the benefits are not for 20 years or for 30 years, I think that is the heart of Senator Enzi's question.

But the position has been that there has to be some kind of cost-benefit analysis.

So back to the 7 percent versus 5 percent decision on social cost of carbon, can you help us understand how that decision was made?