James Lankford actually said...

"I want to be able to make sure, obviously, that people that have been debarred for a period of time, that is actually pulled off so they can be redeemed, I guess, at the end of it."

"But if you have somebody that has violated Clean Water Act, Clean Air Act, they are going on the list at that point?"

"Those are individuals that have been included because of Clean Water Act violations, Clean Air Act violations."

"We have to find a way to move from we intend to get this done to this is actually done."