James Lankford actually said...

What have you seen, as far as the success rate in the 8(a) programs, as far as, at the end of that 9 years; by your 10, 11, 12, that busines...

If the tribes don't work together, if they are not trying to work out their differences... then you have a really fractured situation.

I think we need--or if there is going to be demonstration, for instance, the demonstration project authority we have now is awkward, bulky, ...

OK. Any other ideas on that specifically?