James Lankford actually said...

the challenge that we have in this Committee is trying to be able to determine what issues are going to come at us that literally we have to...

The challenge becomes if someone has nefarious plans to be able to build something in, to be able to put something that then could be exploi...

I appreciate that, because again, we are trying to be able to determine long-term how long this has been around.

It is my understanding that this particular vulnerability, the Log4j, it has been around since 2013.