James Lankford actually said...

"How do we keep a group with so much authority and so little accountability from getting this tunnel vision that you talk about in your book?"

"But is that a waiver that needs to be done or is that something that needs to be established as a process to say regulation cannot go into effect until----"

"So it is down the hall, but it is still within the same agency."

"But that is the challenge, because once you start getting into those assumptions and you start evaluating it, it is very difficult for me to be able to say let's hand that to an agency and if private ..."