James Lankford actually said...

So give me an example of that. What does real moderation look like?

This is a dark spot in our country that we have to be able to both shine light on and to be able to deal with in the days ahead.

How do you balance the two of those where it is we are tough on dollars to be able to do it?

Let me ask the process. How did that work through, something that affects a relatively small number of people?