James Lankford actually said...

But in a 20-year window, I would just say almost always the people that are paying the capital up-front are going to lose.

You might want to check on some of the regulations coming down in the coal industry then because that has been a pretty rapid acceleration, ...

I would suggest those kind of dates are necessary so that every agency sees the deadlines that are coming.

So back to the 7 percent versus 5 percent decision on social cost of carbon, can you help us understand how that decision was made?