James Lankford actually said...

We get calls all the time from businesses and from individuals that say, we have this overwhelming number of guidance documents and new regs...

I want to just put a check on that to say it is not really a safe harbor, because even they say they are not bound by No Action Letters.

Thank you. You may be seated. Let the record reflect all the witnesses answered in the affirmative.

And it is the challenge that I have that I bring the illustration up: If you have a new employee at a university, you have a new employee at...