James Lankford actually said...

"we have tried to codify that, and the Administration has fought vehemently against us"

"But, we do not know, we do not have a measurable result yet so that we know it is going to work."

"Thank you to all of you for the work that you are doing and the dedication that you put to this."

"it does seem odd to say that at times we are getting, 'We have to have this in law to be able to hold it,' and at other times hearing, 'Do not put that in law. We want the flexibility.'"