05/30/2012
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"OK. Other ideas and thoughts?"
"We understand well that we are very grateful to people who choose to serve their country through Federal service."
"I want this panel to know that we are very interested in hearing the specific ideas because we want to help in this process."
"I think we need--or if there is going to be demonstration, for instance, the demonstration project authority we have now is awkward, bulky, and it was set up in 1978."