James Lankford actually said...

We have to avoid the constant fear of a government shutdown.

What happens if you get to the end, and then you tip over, and you have a government shutdown? He laughed. He said, 'We have a new election ...

Where we are right now in budgeting, I am not sure it is how do you tie the hands of Congress. It is how do you untie the hands of Congress ...

I would not exactly pull California as a model on efficiency in spending.