Ernest Istook: “I know of parents who I personally know are extremely responsible parents, and yet their children have been drawn into…”

I regret that I cannot agree to the amendment, because I know he has devoted a lot of time to it, but for a couple of reasons. One, of course, is that the National Park Service customarily has its appropriations through the Interior…

Mr. Chairman, I appreciate Mrs. Capito's amendment and the seriousness of this issue. When we talk about private collection of debts, we should understand that the Federal Government is already using private debt collectors in other areas…

The fact that there may be corporate expatriates in these countries does not mean you should disqualify everybody that is in those countries. If you want to get at corporate expatriates, go after them, but do not say that because, maybe…

Mr. Chairman, maybe people do not realize what we are actually debating. We are not debating pension plans. We are not debating conversion of pension plans from one type to another. We have before us the amendment by the gentleman from…