We are not punching above our weight. We are punching below our weight, as they say.

It is important for our growth as a country and for the prosperity and jobs in the country for us to be out there doing this.

So I feel like I was misled, in a way.

Unfortunately, I think what happened recently with regard to the IRS targeting certain groups based on their political views reversed a lot of that progress.

I think it is a really important role, and, as you know, I was involved in the 1990s on the IRS Commission that Senator Bob Kerry and I co-chaired.

This is not our last hearing, so we will continue to work on this.

I guess, just give me a sense of whether ODNI is tackling this issue of declassification and trying to ensure that we have the classification of materials, but do not over classify.

Do you think it is a problem of over classification, and if so, do you think ODNI and others are doing the right things to try to de-classify information so it is more useful?

We have a legislation that Senator Tester and I introduced that actually passed called the SCORE Act.

You mentioned, as I recall, that you think that the legislative branch provides too much deference to the executive branch on classification.

A guy calls in and says, 'I tried to get on for 2 weeks, I finally get on, and I find out my premium is double.'