the fact of the matter is to get into dotting the I's and crossing the T's.

Well, I would sure like to--how many of the agencies that were out there would have a national security dimension in them.

And just for the record, do you agree that the M in OMB should be the person that should be the orchestra leader and the quarterback on it?

So your observation should be that Dr. Sanders is doing the job he is supposed to do?

Have you done an analysis of what it is that you think the agencies you are working with need in terms of resources to do the job that you think that they need to do?

So you think the way it has worked is appropriate?

I just think it is a good idea to get the folks that are there... to have them come back and share with you whether or not they think the training they are receiving is relevant to the job that they are doing.

Now, this is kind of a follow-up for you, General Navas.

It would seem to me that if we are going to deal with this problem the way we would like to, each of the agencies need to be looked at in terms of the human capital commitment that has been made in the agencies.

Senator Graham, who in the Administration is going to read your report?

We have systematically underinvested in training in the Federal Government.