Rudy Giuliani actually said...

I'm giving you a fact now that you don't know. It's not campaign money. No campaign finance violation.

The man is an honest, honorable lawyer.

I think it's a -- I mean, I obviously asked Jay about this. I think he was informed at the time, just like I was when I came into the case.

I assure you that we listened to it numerous, numerous times, and the transcript makes it quite clear at the end that President Trump says, ...