06/05/2023
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"I happen to think that, in fact, the biggest challenge is employers, municipal employers especially, don't know how to negotiate good contracts with good employees."
"The federal/state regulatory regime has not only used overregulation as an enforcement mechanism."
"We are just not going to meet those expectations with the current infrastructure, in particular in rural communities."
"This just doesn't seem practical. And I am sort of a--I was a local government guy."