John Katko: “For the people who have paid for the program, it is a negative.”

I think it is a very substantial threat.

It is our job to do oversight and sometimes it is unpleasant. But the bottom line is we must never forget that you are at the head of keeping this country safe.

So the question is simply, so your answer is you don't believe we are going to lose operational control of the border? Yes or no.

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