05/17/2022
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"So quick question, potentially a solution to you, and I am going to ask this of Mr. Clark."
"I think there is a middle ground. It is not just all or nothing."
"I think there is maybe a middle ground here because I do not like to look at this as a zero sum game; it is either all or nothing."
"Whenever government gets in the middle of it, it tends to overplay."