05/03/2021
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"My concern is that we do have, you know, just because somebody creates a little device and it looks just like a block, there is a lot of engineering that could have gone into that because it is critic..."
"So quick question, potentially a solution to you, and I am going to ask this of Mr. Clark."
"I think there is a middle ground. It is not just all or nothing."
"I think there is maybe a middle ground here because I do not like to look at this as a zero sum game; it is either all or nothing."