02/25/2014
https://congress.gov...
"It is clear from listening to my colleagues here and to some of the panelists that the ESA, at least as it pertains to forests in this great country, is no longer an Act to help the survival of specie..."
"Nobody, regardless of what their politics are, say things are okay."
"Has your organization proposed any legislation when we talk about this issue to say if you are admitted under the circumstances?"
"Is there anybody here on this panel that thinks it is okay the way it is now?"