But as of March 1, your agency has announced that you are not going to fund the at-sea monitoring.

But why can we not fund the $3.78 million of monitoring so they do not go altogether out of business?

I think it would be reasonable for this committee... to put forward language that does not put every small ground fisherman in my state and the New England States out of business.

So like a lot of things, leadership really matters.

Not everyone wants to sit in the traffic either.

So we want to talk extinction. This is extinction of fishermen.

I cannot believe that we would have a system where we are going to put iconic fishermen out of business.

I do not see how their economic vitality is being taken into consideration at all here.

This is something I've raised also with Secretary Johnson.

To the third point you just made about nonstate actors using cyber as a weapon system, how grave of a threat is that to us, currently?

I think we have, in some documents, heard from your staff that it is not going to be before 2022, but if you can get me the exact date, I would appreciate it.

I think stronger sanctions are very important for the international community.