John Hoeven actually said...

It seems to me that the 2 big issues in getting the technology to move forward for carbon capture and sequestration are cost and liability.

Absolutely. So Mr. Klara, Ms. Greenberg in the lab and in your brainstorming sessions, what are we going to do with this CO2 that's going to...

Mr. Chairman, with your indulgence? Exactly. Again, that goes to the cost equation. You have to have a pipeline to get it to the oil field t...

What do you want? What don't you want? And there's an associated cost or reduction that goes with it.