I do not ever bluff, so let me ask you this. When does threaten and when does consequences to actions--because too many times we threaten without resolve.

The Chinese Government is responsible for 50 to 80 percent of global theft of intellectual property, hurting American businesses and costing American jobs.

So, Mr. Stoll, you mentioned about a fine of $140,000-some-odd. You are a larger corporation, so you can afford that, right? Oh, you can't.

So it is not knowing at what point you are going to get fined for what.

I personally have visited, and I am not going to mention any names in terms of what mines I have been in, but I haven't found complacency.

But it is not just the three people because we had--I mean, the majority of the people here stood up and said the same thing.

So you are going to support training for your inspectors?

Either way, it is a problem, as the Chairman has pointed out.

Can you get that to this committee?

Will you say that for the record today?

I look forward to working with you to solve this issue. I believe that it is solvable.