John Shaw: “I guess we should start out the argument in this particular phase of where we are today as 'been there, done that.' As a…”

“I guess we should start out the argument in this particular phase of where we are today as 'been there, done that.' As a minority party, we have been there, we have done that. Now I think it is a question of whether or not we are going to record a vote. Of course we are going to record a vote. We have been there, we have done that, too. What do we do? We try to get this thing couched in a way that could cause some embarrassment to the majority. We have been there, we have done that. So let us get rid of the question of whether or not they are acting unfairly, because we have been there and we have done that. I would like to take a close look at the motion that is before us. The first item talks about, oh, we are not going to raise the retirement age as far as receiving Medicare until age 67. The first generation that is going to have to wait until the age of 67 are those born in 1960, so let us not talk about senior citizens, because we are not. They are totally unaffected.”