G. K. Butterfield: “on rollcall No. 562, had I been present I would have voted ``nay.'' On rollcall No. 563, had I been present I would have…”

Section 5 has been very meaningful and has meant a lot to the political progress the minority groups have made across the country.

May I inquire about how much time each side has remaining. The SPEAKER pro tempore (Ms. Clark of Massachusetts). The gentleman from North Carolina has 6\1/2\ minutes remaining. The gentleman from Illinois has 2\1/4\ minutes remaining.

Again, how much time do I have remaining? The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from North Carolina has 4 minutes remaining.

Where we diverge is how to preserve the program for those in actual need without regulatory loopholes and fuzzy interpretations of the law, both of which exploit the very intent of the program.