11/18/2009
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"Mr. Secretary, I want to raise an interdepartmental budget issue for you."
"I would say the new normal is you will see more visible ICE presence out in the communities."
"The commander of NORTHCOM command said publicly that there is no military threat on the southern border, so spending money for a wall, potentially at the expense of health of our service members, just..."
"Before spending more money and, potentially, lives on this endeavor, it is important to identify what we, as a country, and us, as a military, are trying to achieve."