Just interrupting for a minute, from a business standpoint, because my background was engineering and business, when a business is running at 1 to 4 percent, that's like if you think about somebody that has to breathe keeping his lips above the water, you don't have much margin there before you go into the red when you're running at 1 to 4 percent.
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The speaker discusses the challenges businesses face when operating with low profit margins.
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