"We have to prevent that, I believe."
"So basically it was a joint decision to go ahead with this program and these incentives, is that correct?"
"Different people get that information in different real time. Is that correct?"
"We cannot protect our economy from other--we can, but not in this particular discussion."
"These are not law. They are policy, and that means they are left up to the companies to implement."
"You know that. You are a business person, a very active business----"
"So is it fair to say these basically followed a joint Goldman-Metro decision?"
"When Goldman canceled warrants for over 300,000 metric tons of aluminum in 2012, did that cancellation directly lead to the lengthening of the queue?"
"The amount of the incentives dramatically increased. Is that correct?"
"It is a 2-year wait. That is the answer."
"Essentially, Nufcor became a shell operation under the complete control of Goldman employees."