The gentleman, I don't know what analogy he is using to process, but what he just said would effectively say, if the witnesses weren't called and presented in the grand jury, then the defense attorney can't call them, then the prosecutor can't call them. That is absolutely untrue. I could use a harsher word of how lacking in substance I think that representation is. The Senate is now trying the case. The grand jury has sent the case over there strong enough to have a significant majority of the House vote for it, by the way, in a partisan sense, not a single Republican. Well, there was a single Republican. As a matter of fact, there are three or four who have talked to me privately--I will not mention their names--but they didn't vote, as they talked to me. But the fact of the matter is, what the gentleman's proposition is is that if you didn't call the witnesses in the House, then you can't call them in the Senate. Now, the reason for that is because they don't want the witnesses called, which is why the President told them, Don't testify in the House. They were asked to testify. And what happened when we asked them to testify? No, you have to have a subpoena. What happened when we had subpoenas when we talked to Mr. McGahn? He went to court. And when he lost, he appealed, and they were going to appeal to the Supreme Court. That takes forever.…
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