John Sarbanes actually said...

"I think that might give us some additional context and perspective on the potential impact that this freeze is going to have going forward."

"the hiring freeze and the impact that it's going to have on the ability of the agency to function at a high level and to meet the needs of the populations that it serves is obviously at stake here."

"obviously, a hiring freeze and other kind of resource restrictions on the VA that are imprudent can have an impact"

"you impose this draconian hiring freeze when you have thousands and thousands of positions that are open, and that's going to aggravate a situation in which the agency can't deliver at the level that ..."