John Sarbanes: “But what you are doing when you show me those charts is you are assuming no action. Just as in 1992, if you assumed no…”

“But what you are doing when you show me those charts is you are assuming no action. Just as in 1992, if you assumed no action, you would have shown a chart of great concern. We took action and, therefore, the situation was improved. Now I am not asserting that the action taken thus far is a complete response to the problem. But I am trying to make the point that these scare scenarios are all premised on sort of doing nothing. We had one before. We did something. We got a very substantial improvement. We need to do even more in order to have further improvement. And the hangup is essentially connected with the rising costs of medical care. If you break out the analysis and say, ``What is it that is growing that is going to create this problem in the future?'' It is the cost of medical care.”