John Sarbanes actually said...

one of the challenges we have in responding to climate change as a matter of public policy is that it can be a very abstract concept.

I have used for myself as a way of understanding this the metaphor or analogy, I guess, of a levee that we are worried about breaching.

Then here comes climate change to raise our awareness to another level and begin to push the public policy.

I want to thank you, in particular, for this proposal because reinvigorating any program that is getting our young people out into nature is...