09/18/2023
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"some of our colleagues prefer to minimize the damage, saying, oh, well, it's less than one percent or two percent."
"that's $80 billion that could've gone to small businesses that deserved it and people who needed the money."
"Mr. Chairman, thank you for calling this very important hearing about more than $80 billion lost in fraud and rip-offs of the taxpayers within these programs."
"The power grabs are in the eye of the beholder. We think it`s a power grab that all of these people who come from states that were admitted after the original 13 like South Dakota and North Dakota, or..."