Chris Van Hollen actually said...

Let me ask you a quick question on the fiscal policy, because I think we all agree that the Congress should act now to put in place a plan t...

it would be a mistake for, in your view, for the Congress to use the debt ceiling as a, quote, Bargaining chip.

you wrote to the Speaker of the House on January 6th of this year indicating that your assessment would be that that would add $230 billion ...

I do think there's room for that.