Chris Hollen actually said...

"I appreciate the role USAID plays in addressing exactly the kind of governance issues you raised."

"I think that is a really important element of our overseas strategy including countering China's efforts to export its authoritarian model in many countries through infrastructure projects."

"If you imagine what Ukraine would look like without the support that we have been providing, Putin could win the war without having to fire a bullet if the Ukrainian Government collapsed."

"I also think that we need to be competing in areas of infrastructure because this is the primary tool that China uses to try to export its influence."