Ben Cardin actually said...

I think the Cantwell bill envisions--well, it would not envision, it mandates that the experimentation end.

I think it is important for us to try to modernize those programs and make them even more effective.

I think what you are doing is the right thing as it relates to the lizard.

I understand from your testimony that is not the position of the National Institutes of Health at this particular moment.