Ben Cardin actually said...

But I think we have to have a more sophisticated way in which we look at those that are handling the most dangerous of the pathogens.

So then, in fact, if the collaboration is outside of the United States, you really don't have much ability to follow that money.

I think we all would appreciate having those lines understood.

I miss your good advice that I remember with fondness, working with you when I was in that other body.